The rediscovery of a study that meets Koch’s postulates is actually a heavy blow to contemporary virologists. Since it highlights the question: Why have the modern clowns abandoned these perfectly reasonable requirements? Or watered them down?
Because they have committed these crimes against science we can’t use a foot and mouth Trojan horse to smuggle back the entirety of their findings. And we ought not get hung up on the term “virus”. There is no alternative but to start over and apply Kochs postulates and then see where we are at.
It’s pretty telling that Mees had to go 128 years back, and to another species, to so spectacularly prove his point. I can’t help it that I sound like I am defining the problem away. But we have to find a different category for these little guys, once we can figure out where a proper application of science leaves us.
The regular, independent virology has used Koch's postulates to proof the existence of viruses. That stands as a house, yet team no-virus throw it out with the bathwater.
But part of them have been corrupted, like in every other field of human activity, by the Predators of this world, enhance viruses, tweak diagnostic tools, falsify data (e.g. the unsafety of practically all vaccines) etc.
You are over your head, Mees. Good luck with this. Elite loves you for it. Keep your head in the sand and thinking you are awake and keep their virus propaganda a life with pure utter nonsense. My god what is happened with you!
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge.
On the misleading publications:
After a quick read I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
In practice Koch’s postulates have been long abandoned. That’s why your study using it is 128 years old and to do with another species. This foot and mouth pathogen has to be a different beast from the fantasy creatures they talk about. With their virus concept they don’t even propose a serious mechanism that could do the damage.
I agree that Koch’s postulates are pure logic and should be the standard. “…..even the no virus….” That’s the central issue here. Tom and Andy haven’t abandoned Koch’s postulates. The mainstream have. Maybe not in the veterinary field. But in the human domain Koch’s postulates were watered down and abandoned.
Endobacteria can live inside cells, then multiply and sporulate. Spores exit the cell, may pass through a filter and be mistaken for a virus. Then, if they are lucky, enter another cell and restart their lifecycle.
Try a google search for "bacteria inside cancer cells". Yes they live in many if not all cancer cells. Proven science. Do bacteria just find a happy place there or do they actually cause cancer, which may explain how the alternative remedies work?
Also try search for "alzheimer's spirochetes" and find the true cause.
Doctors also tell us that toxic seed oils are healthy and you should consume more PUFA's.
My point is, they lie and cheat about everything. Nothing in medical science is what "healthcare" claims it to be. There is a reason why people do not trust the narrative. Something is very suspicious about "the virus", but people just cant put their finger on it. It is therefore no surprise that some follow the denialists but that trail leads nowhere.
Regarding Covid-19, Dr. Lawrence Broxmeyer makes a point that the disease is very similar to tuberculosis and might be caused by mycobacteria. He provides a valid alternative to outright denial.
The more of your posts I read, the more I come to believe that you are a disinformation agent. Have you been duped, as you claim Adolf Hitler was, or are you intentionally misleading us? I don’t know your mind so I can’t discern your motivations. But you are clearly biased against Hitler and biased in favor of virology.
This cancer journalist discovered the low bar in drug testing required for cancer drug approval. I have no doubt that the same level of testing is used to approve other drugs. It costs lots of money to properly test drugs for FDA approval. Considering the cost involved in double blind placebo testing, there is obvious motivation to get drugs approved.
all the corruption in the medical and pharmaceutical world does not mean that viruses don't exist! Loeffler proved it in 1897, with Koch's postulates, which are even recognized by team no-virus.
What happened to your article about Flat Earth? It should have been published around mid March, right?
My guess is we are on the opposite side of this issue as well. I can tell you this, I live near the coast of the Gulf of Mexico and have made personal observations proving the Earth is not a sphere with a circumference of 25k miles. The calculation for curvature of a sphere that size is 8" per mile squared. We can see objects that are so far away with visual aids that change perspective like binoculars, the objects should be beyond the curve and not visible.
Another issue with spherical Earth is if the Earth was spinning at a rate of 1,000 mph at the equator, how is it possible that we have perfectly calm days with no wind whatsoever? Yes I know, globers' have excuses for these observations, but do they really think it through, or do they just come up with something to maintain their belief?
Another issue is with the atmosphere. how is it we have atmospheric pressure next to the vacuum of space? Why doesn't the atmosphere just expand into the vacuum? Does gravity magically hold it to the Earth?
It takes serious mental gymnastics to maintain belief in the heliocentric model. Hopefully you are not someone who also believes in this nonsense.
Yes Koch's postulates are recognized as how a germ or virus can be proven to exist. But what the no virus camp contends is that there has never been proof of an isolated virus that meets all the criteria of Koch's postulates. Dr. Cowan has offered a reward to anyone who can produce a peer reviewed scientific paper proving the existence of any virus. If one existed, someone would have claimed the reward by now.
The rash of disease in the first part of the 20th Century called polio is pointed to as the gold standard for how a vaccine cured a harmful pandemic. Polio had and has NO ability to spread from infected victims to the uninfected. It turns out that polio was caused by pesticides, not a virus.
If corruption in the medical and pharmaceutical world does not mean viruses don't exist, how could we ever trust them? That would be the same as trusting NASA after the hoax of the moon landings. When we learn we have been intentionally lied to, we would be foolish to trust the liar again.
In 2023, the medical industry accounted for 17.6% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United States. The media does its best to protect this cash bonanza for the industry. RFK Jr's book showed how Fauci who controlled the purse strings funded studies that agreed with his policy, and defunded any scientists that wanted to study something contrary to what Fauci wanted studied.
Have you read The Invisible Rainbow? It makes a good case for the cause of many modern diseases. Many get sick, including the author, Arthur Furstenberg, from electromagnetic radiation. Even plants have been shown to be negatively impacted by EMR. This information is of course suppressed. TPTB don't want us to know we are being made sick by our electronic gadgets.
I am sorry to hear you have given up on flat earth. Of all the conspiracy theories out there, FE is the most important as it gets to the very nature of our observed reality.
If we can be convinced that the Earth is a spinning globe, contrary to what we observe and feel, what can't we be manipulated to believe?
FE is a metaphor for not spherical. That we are not on a spinning globe is very easy to prove with earthbound observations. Proving exactly what the Earth is is more difficult. But disproving the globe is really all we need to do to prove to ourselves that the globe theory is an intentional lie. When we accept we have been lied to, we can then speculate as to why the lie.
The flat earth community is growing. Once someone has convinced themself they have been lied to about the nature of our reality, it is natural to wonder what else have we been lied to about. As it turns out, nearly everything.
If you do come to the realization that the earth is not a spinning globe, you may not want to talk about it on social media unless you have firm convictions and strong armor against abusive trolls. This topic gets them out in spades, and they will claim you are the dumbest idiot around, and worse. I am firm in my convictions on this topic, and the insults and vitriol have no effect on me.
One should be aware of the proof for the spherical earth, that Erastosthenes formulated, around 6:th century BC, when registering the moon in an eclipse, passes through the shadow of the earth. The shadow being circular in shape.
As for similar personal experience at the shore of a wide ocean surface, I can testify that my observation concludes a spherical earth. A large modern ferry disappears clearly behind the water-horizon.
Erastosthenes supposedly measured the circumference of the Earth with his sticks and shadows experiment. But he made an assumption that the Earth was a sphere. What proof did he give for his assumption?
I live near the Gulf coast. When ships dissappear from the bottom first, that is due to the law of perspective. You can bring the entire ship back into view by looking through a long zoom lens. This changes your visual perspective.
Lots of photographs exist of objects that should be over the horizon based on 8" per mile squared, the calculation for spherospity of a sphere 25k miles in circumfrance.
The shadow of the moon during a total solar eclipse is around 300 miles wide. The shadow cast by an object cannot be smaller than the object itself. You can do your own experiment with a flashlight. Try to make the shadow of an object smaller than the object.
Most of us believe what we are told without bothering to think things through for ourselves. Or conduct our own experiments.
Do you also believe in the Big Bang, Evolution and Moon landing fairytales?
My intuition has been sharpened over the last 7 years since I retired from consulting. I can tell when someone is coming from the heart or is putting out “spin.” This is especially true when I listen to them lecture or be interviewed. I listen with my heart. If someone connects with my heart, I believe they are putting out truth. I think we all have this sense, but not all of us trust it. We more or less have been taught not to trust our intuition and instead follow the experts or the authorities. I don’t trust authorities and I am suspicious of self-proclaimed experts with alphabet soups after their names.
Those striving to get the truth out are attacked by those seeking to defend a narrative. David Irving is the best example I have come across. He is one of my truth heroes. If he has errored in any of his books it is not intentional. If someone verifies his error to him, he will correct it. He is not married to his works, he will admit if he has made a mistake and correct it in the next edition.
I have learned a whole lot since the Obama gay Whitehouse. I now trust no politicians whatsoever.
That said, I also studied healthcare since my mother-in-law's cancer diagnosis. I like and trust Dr. Lee Merrit. She has seen evidence that some cultures treat cancer as parasites. Search Ivermectin+cancer. Lots of interesting studies. Could that be why Fauci banned Ivermectin? Was he promoting deadly remdisivir and banning the good stuff that also cures cancer?
Ivermectin is an antiparacitic. My brain connects these dots. What do the Uber greedy want to protect the most? Big pharma is top of mind.
He has just a too big of an ego to give in and that he is over his head here. Everyone here knows that they have lied and virology was from the beginning on a house of cards. Here some real history Mees. Do you dare to let your ego out the door for once to see this excellent one? https://www.bitchute.com/video/4oaxQMIizBsv/
Why is your ad hominem attacking style so typical for virus deniers?
I am not saying there are no problems with virology, or that vaccines are the solution (they are a scandalous problem), or that the covid pandemia covid was real (it was a hoax). What I am saying is that viruses exist, including covid19, and that Loeffler was the first to come up with proof of an animal virus: nobody has taken my challenge to proof that he was wrong.
And why is your ego not researching the facts we present? You are not interested in truth and you want to be right here! This is foolish behavior on your side and you shoot your self in your own foot bc people are not taking you serious anymore and so all your excellent work about the Elite is not worth that much anymore.
Are they making something in their biolabs? Sure, and if you call that a virus 🦠, I can follow that. But if you are believing in natural viruses that are out there to kill us, no you are wrong then.
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge. Please tell me what else can explain his results, if not a virus (a submicroscopic agent replicating in the host)?
On the misleading publications:
After a quick screening I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
The post is back up now. Sometimes when debates degenerate it's best to call a truce and take some time out.
It's generally difficult to entertain someone else's point of view when you're angry or defensive.
You're right that I did insult you. I'm sorry for calling you a liar.
I'm pretty sure that you have good intentions. We don't see eye to eye on this particular issue, but I think that the issue has more to do with language than anything else.
Some on the No Virus side are against the idea that contagion occurs, but I am not one of them. It would certainly be easier to debate this question if there were only two positions, but that is not the case.
Yeah, you really went rogue – adding to a pattern of nasty experiences I had with other rude members of Team no-virus – but I accept your apology.
I would still like to ask you a question: I have unmasked several of the serious issues in the Roytas/Baily book (to which I only dedicated an hour or two; it has more issues). This includes an omission (lack of spreader event studies); a deception (if you really want to proof that contagion does not exist, you have to study an epidemic, and not an endemic disease); and a blunt lie in the main conclusion, which totally contradicts the presented data.
This - pathological - pattern is also found in other no-virus publications, such as The Contagion Myth, and confirmed by authors as Jeremy Hammond and AW Finnegan. Yet you – an experienced blogger in these fields – had not spotted any of these issues, and you recommended these books without reservations.
So my question is: after this rather devastating experience for you, how can you be so sure that the four no-virus points you mention in your apology are still valid?
Is your trust so unscathed that you can – for example - debunk Pierre Kory’s book The War on Ivermectine, in which he clearly shows that Covid patients were plagued by a dangerous and often fatal inflammatory syndrome (including “Happy Hypoxia”) not seen in previous flu outbreaks, for which they had to create a novel treatment protocol?
Sorry, I mixed things up. But please see the review, which is very polite.
I would call them cheaters and frauds without hesitation. You can't make such terrible errors by accident (Jeremy Hammond has revealed dozens of such tricks), it has to be part of a psy-op. Just as Can you catch a cold: how can you conclude there is no contagion when the infection in the experimental group is three times higher than in de control group? How did you miss that?
Before I answer your other questions, could you please say where I recommend The Contagion Myth? I've never even heard of that book, let alone read it.
I also am not familiar with the work of Hammond or Finnegan.
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge.
On the misleading publications:
After a quick read I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
Who is afraid of the non existence of viruses? Mees you still have no proof of one natural virus isolation! Just stop it already before making more uninformed foolish articles that still prove nothing. Here this one says it all again:
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge.
On the misleading publications:
After a quick read I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
It is impossible to have something 100% pure, should that be in a vacuum?
Loeffler did an effort to collect the blister fluid in a sterile way, filtered out bacteria, and did some other tests. Even so, there would be an occasional inpure sample. He noticed that the receptor animal "cleaned" the sample in most of the cases. Even if your method is not perfect, a creative scientist can find workarounds.
But isn't that just the point if we are to have true science. You must be able to separate and identify some substance in this case, and then do the experiment showing that the found substance produces the same effect, over and over again. If not, the field is open to what we see now, guesswork and charlatans. It is more probable that what is called virus, is the rest-product of a cleansing-process, which often times is caused by bacteria, poison and emp. With covid, the whole biological establishment has showed it's complete failure to understand disease and health. So the idea of a virus you cannot scientifically work with is proof of the complete unnecessary character of vaccines. And further, if what Leffler found, it sure has not solved disease, right?
it was only 50 years after Loefflers discovery that good working vaccines were achieved, which safeguarded from new outbreaks (of the same type of FMD virus, there are several types).
For political reasons the EU stopped FMD vaccination, and several outbreaks have occurred since.
You wrote: With covid, the whole biological establishment has showed it's complete failure to understand disease and health.
That's not the case: the problem is that these sciences have been captured by the criminals seeking world domination.
But the problem is not solved by Loeffler, because firstly we have to know what we talk about, that what is a virus, namely the fragmented product of a process, and not as now postulated, a well-defined item.
I think you are wrong therefore to endorse the technique of vaccination.
Sasha Latypova retired form running testing labs for Big Pharma. She has turned whistle blower since she dove down the rabbit hole of COVID and learned that standard lab procedures were not followed for testing mRNA vaccines labeled "countermeasures." She connected with Katherine Watt, a paralegal who dove into the various legal protections for Big Pharma and vaccines.
This is but one of her many interviews where she discusses the COVID fraud perpetrated against us.
Sasha has a large body of work on her Substack channel Due Diligence and Art. Katherine Watt has a large body of work on her Substack channel Baliwick News.
Even if viruses exist, which I doubt, they are not that deadly and do not cause pandemics. More harm is done by vaccines than is done by viruses.
The rediscovery of a study that meets Koch’s postulates is actually a heavy blow to contemporary virologists. Since it highlights the question: Why have the modern clowns abandoned these perfectly reasonable requirements? Or watered them down?
Because they have committed these crimes against science we can’t use a foot and mouth Trojan horse to smuggle back the entirety of their findings. And we ought not get hung up on the term “virus”. There is no alternative but to start over and apply Kochs postulates and then see where we are at.
It’s pretty telling that Mees had to go 128 years back, and to another species, to so spectacularly prove his point. I can’t help it that I sound like I am defining the problem away. But we have to find a different category for these little guys, once we can figure out where a proper application of science leaves us.
The regular, independent virology has used Koch's postulates to proof the existence of viruses. That stands as a house, yet team no-virus throw it out with the bathwater.
But part of them have been corrupted, like in every other field of human activity, by the Predators of this world, enhance viruses, tweak diagnostic tools, falsify data (e.g. the unsafety of practically all vaccines) etc.
No it’s not. Covid did not stand a brick against Koch…
https://www.bitchute.com/video/68HZRPTCEl6a/
You are over your head, Mees. Good luck with this. Elite loves you for it. Keep your head in the sand and thinking you are awake and keep their virus propaganda a life with pure utter nonsense. My god what is happened with you!
Dear commenter
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge.
On the misleading publications:
After a quick read I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
On The Contagion Myth, see this polite but devastating critique https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege-and-jon-mcalice/some-comments-on-the-contagion-myth
Then there are the hundreds of pages of polite and patient, and very detailed and rational refutation of no virus theory by Jeremy Hammond,
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/articles/collections/virus/
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
In practice Koch’s postulates have been long abandoned. That’s why your study using it is 128 years old and to do with another species. This foot and mouth pathogen has to be a different beast from the fantasy creatures they talk about. With their virus concept they don’t even propose a serious mechanism that could do the damage.
no sir, even the no virus people still adhere to them!
this is pure logic, and as such cannot be substituted by something else.
Yes, over time, when more and more elements became clear, they were adapted.
I agree that Koch’s postulates are pure logic and should be the standard. “…..even the no virus….” That’s the central issue here. Tom and Andy haven’t abandoned Koch’s postulates. The mainstream have. Maybe not in the veterinary field. But in the human domain Koch’s postulates were watered down and abandoned.
That gives Glafia a lot of room to move.
Endobacteria can live inside cells, then multiply and sporulate. Spores exit the cell, may pass through a filter and be mistaken for a virus. Then, if they are lucky, enter another cell and restart their lifecycle.
Exceptions prove the rule
But bacterial spores are 5-50 times bigger than viruses
Try a google search for "bacteria inside cancer cells". Yes they live in many if not all cancer cells. Proven science. Do bacteria just find a happy place there or do they actually cause cancer, which may explain how the alternative remedies work?
Also try search for "alzheimer's spirochetes" and find the true cause.
Doctors also tell us that toxic seed oils are healthy and you should consume more PUFA's.
My point is, they lie and cheat about everything. Nothing in medical science is what "healthcare" claims it to be. There is a reason why people do not trust the narrative. Something is very suspicious about "the virus", but people just cant put their finger on it. It is therefore no surprise that some follow the denialists but that trail leads nowhere.
Regarding Covid-19, Dr. Lawrence Broxmeyer makes a point that the disease is very similar to tuberculosis and might be caused by mycobacteria. He provides a valid alternative to outright denial.
https://www.academia.edu/41727245/Questions_Raised_By_the_New_Coronavirus_Too_Many_Experts_Too_Little_Thought_by_Dr_Lawrence_Broxmeyer_MD
The more of your posts I read, the more I come to believe that you are a disinformation agent. Have you been duped, as you claim Adolf Hitler was, or are you intentionally misleading us? I don’t know your mind so I can’t discern your motivations. But you are clearly biased against Hitler and biased in favor of virology.
This cancer journalist discovered the low bar in drug testing required for cancer drug approval. I have no doubt that the same level of testing is used to approve other drugs. It costs lots of money to properly test drugs for FDA approval. Considering the cost involved in double blind placebo testing, there is obvious motivation to get drugs approved.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2lTgHomrItt6/
please read this, so you understand who I am
all the corruption in the medical and pharmaceutical world does not mean that viruses don't exist! Loeffler proved it in 1897, with Koch's postulates, which are even recognized by team no-virus.
sorry, the article https://thepredatorsversusthepeople.substack.com/p/pharmafia-the-new-merchants-of-death
What happened to your article about Flat Earth? It should have been published around mid March, right?
My guess is we are on the opposite side of this issue as well. I can tell you this, I live near the coast of the Gulf of Mexico and have made personal observations proving the Earth is not a sphere with a circumference of 25k miles. The calculation for curvature of a sphere that size is 8" per mile squared. We can see objects that are so far away with visual aids that change perspective like binoculars, the objects should be beyond the curve and not visible.
Another issue with spherical Earth is if the Earth was spinning at a rate of 1,000 mph at the equator, how is it possible that we have perfectly calm days with no wind whatsoever? Yes I know, globers' have excuses for these observations, but do they really think it through, or do they just come up with something to maintain their belief?
Another issue is with the atmosphere. how is it we have atmospheric pressure next to the vacuum of space? Why doesn't the atmosphere just expand into the vacuum? Does gravity magically hold it to the Earth?
It takes serious mental gymnastics to maintain belief in the heliocentric model. Hopefully you are not someone who also believes in this nonsense.
Yes Koch's postulates are recognized as how a germ or virus can be proven to exist. But what the no virus camp contends is that there has never been proof of an isolated virus that meets all the criteria of Koch's postulates. Dr. Cowan has offered a reward to anyone who can produce a peer reviewed scientific paper proving the existence of any virus. If one existed, someone would have claimed the reward by now.
The rash of disease in the first part of the 20th Century called polio is pointed to as the gold standard for how a vaccine cured a harmful pandemic. Polio had and has NO ability to spread from infected victims to the uninfected. It turns out that polio was caused by pesticides, not a virus.
https://realnewsaustralia.com/2019/02/27/the-real-history-of-polio-20-things-you-didnt-know/
If corruption in the medical and pharmaceutical world does not mean viruses don't exist, how could we ever trust them? That would be the same as trusting NASA after the hoax of the moon landings. When we learn we have been intentionally lied to, we would be foolish to trust the liar again.
In 2023, the medical industry accounted for 17.6% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United States. The media does its best to protect this cash bonanza for the industry. RFK Jr's book showed how Fauci who controlled the purse strings funded studies that agreed with his policy, and defunded any scientists that wanted to study something contrary to what Fauci wanted studied.
Have you read The Invisible Rainbow? It makes a good case for the cause of many modern diseases. Many get sick, including the author, Arthur Furstenberg, from electromagnetic radiation. Even plants have been shown to be negatively impacted by EMR. This information is of course suppressed. TPTB don't want us to know we are being made sick by our electronic gadgets.
I have decided not to spend one minute more on flat earth in the rest of my life. geo or heliocentrism is still an open question for me.
As for my virus argumentation, please read my articles
Cowan et al cannot be trusted, see devastating critique by Hammond and a review of his book The Contagion Myth, mentioned in Virus or no-virus? ....
and my devastating critique on Can you cath a cold in The proof of NO no-virus.
I have many other indicators that they are part of a psyop, coming from the usual source.
I am sorry to hear you have given up on flat earth. Of all the conspiracy theories out there, FE is the most important as it gets to the very nature of our observed reality.
If we can be convinced that the Earth is a spinning globe, contrary to what we observe and feel, what can't we be manipulated to believe?
FE is a metaphor for not spherical. That we are not on a spinning globe is very easy to prove with earthbound observations. Proving exactly what the Earth is is more difficult. But disproving the globe is really all we need to do to prove to ourselves that the globe theory is an intentional lie. When we accept we have been lied to, we can then speculate as to why the lie.
The flat earth community is growing. Once someone has convinced themself they have been lied to about the nature of our reality, it is natural to wonder what else have we been lied to about. As it turns out, nearly everything.
If you do come to the realization that the earth is not a spinning globe, you may not want to talk about it on social media unless you have firm convictions and strong armor against abusive trolls. This topic gets them out in spades, and they will claim you are the dumbest idiot around, and worse. I am firm in my convictions on this topic, and the insults and vitriol have no effect on me.
the minute went by already
Thinking it over: why are you bothering me with FE when I told you I am not interested?
Why didn't you answer my question about Cowan?
Is it your task to engage me in an unproductive discussion so I would wast my time instead of revealing more truths??
One should be aware of the proof for the spherical earth, that Erastosthenes formulated, around 6:th century BC, when registering the moon in an eclipse, passes through the shadow of the earth. The shadow being circular in shape.
As for similar personal experience at the shore of a wide ocean surface, I can testify that my observation concludes a spherical earth. A large modern ferry disappears clearly behind the water-horizon.
If you study art, you should be aware of the law of perspective.
Erastosthenes supposedly measured the circumference of the Earth with his sticks and shadows experiment. But he made an assumption that the Earth was a sphere. What proof did he give for his assumption?
I live near the Gulf coast. When ships dissappear from the bottom first, that is due to the law of perspective. You can bring the entire ship back into view by looking through a long zoom lens. This changes your visual perspective.
Lots of photographs exist of objects that should be over the horizon based on 8" per mile squared, the calculation for spherospity of a sphere 25k miles in circumfrance.
The shadow of the moon during a total solar eclipse is around 300 miles wide. The shadow cast by an object cannot be smaller than the object itself. You can do your own experiment with a flashlight. Try to make the shadow of an object smaller than the object.
Most of us believe what we are told without bothering to think things through for ourselves. Or conduct our own experiments.
Do you also believe in the Big Bang, Evolution and Moon landing fairytales?
My intuition has been sharpened over the last 7 years since I retired from consulting. I can tell when someone is coming from the heart or is putting out “spin.” This is especially true when I listen to them lecture or be interviewed. I listen with my heart. If someone connects with my heart, I believe they are putting out truth. I think we all have this sense, but not all of us trust it. We more or less have been taught not to trust our intuition and instead follow the experts or the authorities. I don’t trust authorities and I am suspicious of self-proclaimed experts with alphabet soups after their names.
Those striving to get the truth out are attacked by those seeking to defend a narrative. David Irving is the best example I have come across. He is one of my truth heroes. If he has errored in any of his books it is not intentional. If someone verifies his error to him, he will correct it. He is not married to his works, he will admit if he has made a mistake and correct it in the next edition.
I also like Dr. Jack Kruse. He is all about truth, no matter the consequences he may face for revealing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiBFtwbyv44&t=11258s
Be aware of social engineers who know how to convince people who trust their intuitions.
How many people trusted their intuition when they supported Barack Obama for president?
What does your intuition say you about Cowan et al?
And how does that compare with the sources I just gave you?
I have learned a whole lot since the Obama gay Whitehouse. I now trust no politicians whatsoever.
That said, I also studied healthcare since my mother-in-law's cancer diagnosis. I like and trust Dr. Lee Merrit. She has seen evidence that some cultures treat cancer as parasites. Search Ivermectin+cancer. Lots of interesting studies. Could that be why Fauci banned Ivermectin? Was he promoting deadly remdisivir and banning the good stuff that also cures cancer?
Ivermectin is an antiparacitic. My brain connects these dots. What do the Uber greedy want to protect the most? Big pharma is top of mind.
He has just a too big of an ego to give in and that he is over his head here. Everyone here knows that they have lied and virology was from the beginning on a house of cards. Here some real history Mees. Do you dare to let your ego out the door for once to see this excellent one? https://www.bitchute.com/video/4oaxQMIizBsv/
Why is your ad hominem attacking style so typical for virus deniers?
I am not saying there are no problems with virology, or that vaccines are the solution (they are a scandalous problem), or that the covid pandemia covid was real (it was a hoax). What I am saying is that viruses exist, including covid19, and that Loeffler was the first to come up with proof of an animal virus: nobody has taken my challenge to proof that he was wrong.
So look in your own mirror Mees and you stop attacking without researching it all! Again research these:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1UvCl0487xHD
Béchamp vs. Pasteur // Bio-terrain vs.The Germ Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3bL23bsiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46jzErpM0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VSwdi4WCHE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wg8ImEL9wSX7/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqU33GhobDw&list=PLO8COuYiCVE1wADy6Chw4Aa97TnyQBzdX&index=2&t=0s
And why is your ego not researching the facts we present? You are not interested in truth and you want to be right here! This is foolish behavior on your side and you shoot your self in your own foot bc people are not taking you serious anymore and so all your excellent work about the Elite is not worth that much anymore.
Are they making something in their biolabs? Sure, and if you call that a virus 🦠, I can follow that. But if you are believing in natural viruses that are out there to kill us, no you are wrong then.
Dear commenter
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge. Please tell me what else can explain his results, if not a virus (a submicroscopic agent replicating in the host)?
On the misleading publications:
After a quick screening I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
On The Contagion Myth, see this polite but devastating critique https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege-and-jon-mcalice/some-comments-on-the-contagion-myth
Then there are the hundreds of pages of polite and patient, and very detailed and rational refutations of no-virus theory by Jeremy Hammond,
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/articles/collections/virus/
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
The post is back up now. Sometimes when debates degenerate it's best to call a truce and take some time out.
It's generally difficult to entertain someone else's point of view when you're angry or defensive.
You're right that I did insult you. I'm sorry for calling you a liar.
I'm pretty sure that you have good intentions. We don't see eye to eye on this particular issue, but I think that the issue has more to do with language than anything else.
Some on the No Virus side are against the idea that contagion occurs, but I am not one of them. It would certainly be easier to debate this question if there were only two positions, but that is not the case.
Crow, did you get my message sent to your email?
Dear Crow
Yeah, you really went rogue – adding to a pattern of nasty experiences I had with other rude members of Team no-virus – but I accept your apology.
I would still like to ask you a question: I have unmasked several of the serious issues in the Roytas/Baily book (to which I only dedicated an hour or two; it has more issues). This includes an omission (lack of spreader event studies); a deception (if you really want to proof that contagion does not exist, you have to study an epidemic, and not an endemic disease); and a blunt lie in the main conclusion, which totally contradicts the presented data.
This - pathological - pattern is also found in other no-virus publications, such as The Contagion Myth, and confirmed by authors as Jeremy Hammond and AW Finnegan. Yet you – an experienced blogger in these fields – had not spotted any of these issues, and you recommended these books without reservations.
So my question is: after this rather devastating experience for you, how can you be so sure that the four no-virus points you mention in your apology are still valid?
Is your trust so unscathed that you can – for example - debunk Pierre Kory’s book The War on Ivermectine, in which he clearly shows that Covid patients were plagued by a dangerous and often fatal inflammatory syndrome (including “Happy Hypoxia”) not seen in previous flu outbreaks, for which they had to create a novel treatment protocol?
Cheers
Mees
PS Your trust in another book, The Contagion Myth by Cowan et al, is also misplaced, see this short review. Talking about liars ......
https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege-and-jon-mcalice/some-comments-on-the-contagion-myth
I never recommended this book. You must be thinking of someone else.
Sorry, I mixed things up. But please see the review, which is very polite.
I would call them cheaters and frauds without hesitation. You can't make such terrible errors by accident (Jeremy Hammond has revealed dozens of such tricks), it has to be part of a psy-op. Just as Can you catch a cold: how can you conclude there is no contagion when the infection in the experimental group is three times higher than in de control group? How did you miss that?
Okay, I'll check it out and let you know what I think.
That is very gracious of you, thank you.
Before I answer your other questions, could you please say where I recommend The Contagion Myth? I've never even heard of that book, let alone read it.
I also am not familiar with the work of Hammond or Finnegan.
Dear commenter
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge.
On the misleading publications:
After a quick read I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
On The Contagion Myth, see this polite but devastating critique https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege-and-jon-mcalice/some-comments-on-the-contagion-myth
Then there are the hundreds of pages of polite and patient, and very detailed and rational refutation of no virus theory by Jeremy Hammond,
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/articles/collections/virus/
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
Well, if you make such bold statements, you should be familiar with this information.
How much they try to prove contagion, it always failed… this is a fact.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1UvCl0487xHD
Watch in full. We need to go to dr Hamer for the real answers. Then you see where it comes from.
BS
This one says it all…
Who is afraid of the non existence of viruses? Mees you still have no proof of one natural virus isolation! Just stop it already before making more uninformed foolish articles that still prove nothing. Here this one says it all again:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1UvCl0487xHD
Dear commenter
I have been answering hundreds of comments on my no-virus articles and was often insulted. I have made two conclusions, which are now my standard answer (personalized answers will be the exception):
1. The leaders of team no-virus are clearly acting in bad faith: all their publications are misleading and riddled with contradictions, falsifications, omissions, etc. These errors can’t be random and the only explanation that I can give is that they are part of a psy-op, set up and financed by The Powers That Be. That is nothing new: it has been seen in all opposition movements, i.e., cognitive infiltration as described by Cass Sunstein: … agents should join those online communities and promote a wide range of additional theories, often rather absurd ones, thereby stirring up internal conflicts, diverting the members into theoretical dead-ends, and heavily discrediting them with the broader public.
2. The followers of team no-virus often make ad hominem attacks, probably because they learned it from Tom Cowan, and because their backgrounds in medicine and virological science are – with rare exceptions – insufficient for an academic discussion. Yet their attitude is rarely humble. For the same reason they are also unable to spot the enormous deceit by the leaders. Most of these rude attackers have a quite recent substack account without original posts, but with a facade of restacks. Some have even offered me money, or cooperation with their leaders in research projects. Again, all of this smells psy-op.
And of course, nobody has taken the Loeffler challenge.
On the misleading publications:
After a quick read I spotted 3 mayor deceptions in Can you catch a cold, see my post The proof of NO no-virus.
On The Contagion Myth, see this polite but devastating critique https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege-and-jon-mcalice/some-comments-on-the-contagion-myth
Then there are the hundreds of pages of polite and patient, and very detailed and rational refutation of no virus theory by Jeremy Hammond,
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/articles/collections/virus/
I am not saying that Covid was not a hoax or a scam (it was), or that vaccines are good (they are dangerous and largely unnecessary), or that viruses are a mayor health risk for humans (that was long ago), or that the pharmaceutical industry is benevolent: in my book I call them Pharmafia: the New Merchants of Death. I am just saying that viruses do exist (including Covid19), that they can be modified into bioweapons, and that anti-viral drugs can be lifesaving.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Jeremy Hammond say that isolation in common language isn't the same as isolation in professional ditto?
To me that points to a soup of things, in which a virus swims.
Is that science at it's goal, in this case?
Could that also mean, that what you inject, is a soup, and not a pure virus, ad according to the above reasoning?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Jeremy Hammond say that isolation in common language isn't the same as isolation in professional ditto?
To me that points to a soup of things, in which a virus swims.
Is that science at it's goal, in this case?
Could that also mean, that what you inject, is a soup, and not a pure virus, ad according to the above reasoning?
It is impossible to have something 100% pure, should that be in a vacuum?
Loeffler did an effort to collect the blister fluid in a sterile way, filtered out bacteria, and did some other tests. Even so, there would be an occasional inpure sample. He noticed that the receptor animal "cleaned" the sample in most of the cases. Even if your method is not perfect, a creative scientist can find workarounds.
But isn't that just the point if we are to have true science. You must be able to separate and identify some substance in this case, and then do the experiment showing that the found substance produces the same effect, over and over again. If not, the field is open to what we see now, guesswork and charlatans. It is more probable that what is called virus, is the rest-product of a cleansing-process, which often times is caused by bacteria, poison and emp. With covid, the whole biological establishment has showed it's complete failure to understand disease and health. So the idea of a virus you cannot scientifically work with is proof of the complete unnecessary character of vaccines. And further, if what Leffler found, it sure has not solved disease, right?
it was only 50 years after Loefflers discovery that good working vaccines were achieved, which safeguarded from new outbreaks (of the same type of FMD virus, there are several types).
For political reasons the EU stopped FMD vaccination, and several outbreaks have occurred since.
You wrote: With covid, the whole biological establishment has showed it's complete failure to understand disease and health.
That's not the case: the problem is that these sciences have been captured by the criminals seeking world domination.
I think you are right in the last paragraph!
But the problem is not solved by Loeffler, because firstly we have to know what we talk about, that what is a virus, namely the fragmented product of a process, and not as now postulated, a well-defined item.
I think you are wrong therefore to endorse the technique of vaccination.
Sasha Latypova retired form running testing labs for Big Pharma. She has turned whistle blower since she dove down the rabbit hole of COVID and learned that standard lab procedures were not followed for testing mRNA vaccines labeled "countermeasures." She connected with Katherine Watt, a paralegal who dove into the various legal protections for Big Pharma and vaccines.
This is but one of her many interviews where she discusses the COVID fraud perpetrated against us.
https://open.substack.com/pub/sashalatypova/p/covid-dossier-interview-with-neil?r=4qa41&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
Sasha has a large body of work on her Substack channel Due Diligence and Art. Katherine Watt has a large body of work on her Substack channel Baliwick News.
Even if viruses exist, which I doubt, they are not that deadly and do not cause pandemics. More harm is done by vaccines than is done by viruses.
I don't have anything but praise and admiration.
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Behold the Virus-No-Virus Car
like to go for a ride?
https://tomg2021.substack.com/p/behold-the-virus-no-virus-car