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Petra Rosemarie's avatar

You made my day! Hahaha

Samba Virurs hahaha

You know there is a chocolate spread, organic - of course, called Samba. Its made by an Bio Food Company called Rapunzel (like in the fairytale). No kidding, the company in a still beautiful part in Bavaria/Germany. When I read Samba Virus I thought, wow a Virus called after a chocolate hazelnut spread.

Have a lovely first of April🤣

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Petra Rosemarie's avatar

* is located

The Region is called Allgäu.

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JAS's avatar

Nice one Mees. You had me going there for a few moments. Great to see your sense of humour is still present despite the Predators trying to banish high spirits.

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Willie Burr's avatar

😂

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Gill Gimberg's avatar

ha, ha, ha. Thanks.

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Troll Hunter's avatar

L.o.l.,- Awww, JEEEEEZE-- Stop pi$$ing on my leg and telling me "it's raining..."

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mag. Blaž Kavčič's avatar

Getting in love with virus/vax infamous Pasteur originated dogma, imposed on the living world

by Flexner Rockefeller gang, is much like Auschwitz prisoners getting in love with concentration camp govs.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

Thanks for your deep insights on April's Fools day

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mag. Blaž Kavčič's avatar

Keep on the good work for the Flexner Rockefeller gang. A lot of vets do.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

yeah, we are all the same, we like The Predators because they are animals, it's a a professional deformation

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Troll Hunter's avatar

You quite obviously did N.O.T. "get" the joke. Or why. On this day in particular...

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Troll Hunter's avatar

It's "falling in love" in this neck o' the woods, Lovey ;-)

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Mark's avatar
Apr 1Edited

“Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; Things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns. The things we don't know we don't know.”

Donald Rumsfeld - Former secretary of defense >>> Spawned: July 9, 1932

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

Yeah, but now we have a visible virus, so it's easier to know

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Graeme Bird's avatar

Fungal spores much smaller than bacteria is a viable alternative.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

please do your homework

Fungal spores vary in size depending on the species, but most fall within the following general ranges:

Yeast spores: 2–5 µm (micrometers) in diameter

Mold spores (e.g., Aspergillus, Penicillium): 2–10 µm

Basidiospores (from mushrooms): 4–20 µm

Zygomycete spores (e.g., Rhizopus): up to 30 µm or more

For comparison, most bacterial cells are 0.5–5 µm in size, and human red blood cells are about 6–8 µm in diameter.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

I did do my homework and you confirmed what I found. Spores can fit into the findings from 128 years ago. Some are small enough. And the fact that they haven’t yet cured foot and mouth implies they have gone down the wrong track.

The cows natural diet is high sugar and fungi love high sugar. So here the infection a paradigm works. Since if we fed them high protein they would all get bloated. It’s a shame you aren’t in the field still since you could try some anti fungal stratagem.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

Spores (sized expressed in micrometers) can be seen under the microscope, viruses not.

Loeffler already determined that the size of foot and mouth disease virus is between 20 and 100 nanometer, which can't be seen with an optical microscope

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Graeme Bird's avatar

Some spores but not all spores. Here we are not worried about big spores. And if a spore was sufficiently small these guys would simply assume it was a virus.

These days some farmers are using apple cider vinegar to help cows produce milk better and cope with higher protein diets. If we assumed an initial fungal infection, that would open it up to try and see if such an approach might help with foot and mouth.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

which spores are as small as viruses? please specify!

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Graeme Bird's avatar

It’s magnificent that you came up with a competent counter-example. These guys are getting too arrogant. Tom sometimes says he doesn’t believe in the immune system. He says things that imply that us and the parasites can all just get along. His experience is with first world humans. No vet who’s worked with herbivores could ever accept such absolutism.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

Yours is easily the best counter example that’s been presented so far. I hope they take it seriously. We have two problems here. Institutional dysfunction and holding one paradigm to the total exclusion of the other.

Contagion myth is way too strong a phrase. If you have Europe living off grain and bread you can call it terrain if you like. But I could imagine, in that situation, some lurgi or other ripping through them like wildfire. Which is not to say that Venetian Glafia wasn’t also putting arsenic in the water.

I think we need both paradigms and you would know that from being a vet for animals with grain or sugary diets.

Don’t know about these viruses though. Big question mark over the institutional capacity to resolve it. We may need to get analytical chemists on loan.

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Graeme Bird's avatar

If they were that small they would be classified as viruses. These guys don’t pull out the centrifuge or electron microscope any more. It stays lonely in storage. If there were such a thing as a virus they would not be competent to find it.

But the notion is odd. Since by their own admission the entity lacks the genetic sophistication to create toxins. Whereas bacteria can make botulism toxin. Tom and Andrew have pushed their paradigm a bit too far. So they seem to want to let bacteria and parasites off the hook also.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

Thanks Jim, saw the Dutch Review of your book, will study it!

Why do you think they launched a virus with such low mortality rate?

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Jim Haslam's avatar

Thanks, Mees. They prioritized contagion over lethality. If it was too lethal, there would be no spreading or shedding. They even researched immune evasion for asymptomatic spread.

https://usrtk.org/covid-19-origins/colorado-state-university-documents-on-bat-pathogen-research/

http://web.evolbio.mpg.de/HEVIMAs/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-021-01394-3

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

Jim, do you agree that the mortality peaks in Bergamo and New York were partly artificial, through fraud and inadequate therapies (midazolam, remdesivir, etc, or even by spreading toxins or radiation), as the people at Woudhouse 76 say?

Was it to make a few "show cases" to instill more fear, just as the Chinese showcase were people were dropping dead on the streets?

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Jim Haslam's avatar

Covid was attenuated (weakened) for a bat's tank-like immune system. Virologists use them for bioweapon research. Notice Egyptian fruit bats are the reservoir for Covid.

https://archive.ph/Lp8yf

I think the crazy videos were just kids trying to go viral; most were homeless people and drunks:

https://jimhaslam.substack.com/p/covid-origins-its-not-what-youve

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FriendOfPacepa's avatar

Wow! And to think I thought they created the idea of a virus to cover over stuff they did not know. I wonder what dewormer took care of it

I’VE ERRED MAKING TIN, I hope I don’t err in picking a dewormer

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Un-silent's avatar

How do we know this is a virus and not a parasite? Funny how this just comes out now with all the "viruses don't exist" talk going around, totally right on time.

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Mees Baaijen's avatar

It fulfilled Cowan's criteria for virus isolation ......

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Un-silent's avatar

But didn't it say that a horse de-wormer killed it? Maybe I misread the article.

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Troll Hunter's avatar

If there's "no such thing" as viruses then there's no need to worry about the "bio research" labs, is there?? See how the "No Virus" narrative helps the Deep Deep State?

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Un-silent's avatar

Couldn't they be making other bio-weapons in those labs? I mean maybe they are not viruses at all.

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